The Talk – Ep 89



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The Talk – Ep 89

  1. Thanks
    1. Mike Condon for the music and editing
    2. Tiffany for the logo/icon
  2. Ep 89 Community Spotlight:
    1. @MothershipGames – 09:15, 26:28, 44:05
    2. @commandcast – 32:27
    3. @edhrec – 34:51
    4. @JoshLeeKwai – 36:07
    5. @dpkrausejr – 37:28
  3. Main Topic – The Talk (The Decks and the Dice)
    1. Why have the talk?
      1. To make sure everyone is on the same page regarding what kind of game is being played.
      2. To ensure everyone has fun. I think if you ask most people, they would say they have a better time playing Magic when the games are close/even
      3. Anecdotes about the talk.
      4. Questions you can ask:
        1. What do you think the power level of your deck is from 1-10?
        2. Are you running combos?
        3. How fast do you usually win? How many turns do your games usually last?
        4. Are you playing mass land destruction
      5. The more you have the talk, the easier it will be to bring up in the future.
        1. People will also see you as someone who strives to play balanced/Fun games.
    2. Why might it be hard to have the talk
      1. Anxiety
      2. New people
    3. Pubstomping
      1. Definition: When an organized team of friends/clan members plays against a team of “pubs” – random people who join a public server.
      2. Does this happen? Probably, but not nearly as much as one might think.
      3. I think sometimes CEDH players can get a bad wrap in this regard. I don’t think there are CEDH Boogey men out there, trolling events, trying to ruin folks days.
      4. We should all remember: “Magic is a game for everyone”, there are all kinds of ways to play and just because one playstyle doesn’t fit you, doesn’t invalidate it or mean others don’t enjoy Magic in that way.
    4. Evaluating your decks
      1. On average most people I’ve played say their decks are between six and seven on the power scale.
      2. I’ve often found not all decks people play feel as powerful as they say, sometimes they are lower or higher.
        1. This happens because there really is not standardized scale by which to measure your deck. This is a very hard problem to solve, because there are so many nuances in the power level of a deck
        2. I don’t think people are intentionally dishonest about the power of their decks.
        3. Maybe in their playgroup their deck does amazing and they think it’s higher
        4. Perhaps it is the opposite and they do not as well in their playgroup despite their deck being very powerful. Maybe because the rest of their playgroup has super ultra mega powerful decks
        5. Ryan and Zack talk about how they would rate their decks
          1. Ryan – Grenzo, 6-6.5
            1. Deck link: https://www.topdecked.me/decks/9b3fdf2b-82ca-4f6a-b859-9e7feae1e5ef
            2. Has a theme, but plays some cards that are kinda bad, like Dark-Dweller Oracle
            3. Has some powerful cards, like Mindslaver, but no way to recur it.
            4. Also has Gauntlet of Might, which can get out of hand pretty quickly
            5. Also, playing cards like Indomitable Creativity, which has high variance
            6. But can also just draw Insurrection and win a game
          2. Zack – Saheeli 7.5 – 8
            1. Deck link: https://www.topdecked.me/decks/d5fbf9d2-2a66-4d44-afc2-904954f16ea5
    5. How to prepare for playing with people you don’t know at your LGS or big event
      1. Bring decks of varying power levels.
        1. Often times I let the other players know about 3-4 decks I have with me, and I see if they are interested in playing against any of them.
      2. Be prepared to have the talk. I’d even go so far as to say that YOU dear viewer should try and initiate the talk.
      3. (Ryan and Zack roleplay a talk)
        1. Ryan will initiate the talk
        2. Zack will introduce himself
        3. Ryan asks Zack questions (Zack is playing Muldrotha) Ryan will eventually suggest he plays his Gonti deck
    6. Mothership Games, our LGS, now has a two days set aside for EDH one more competitive / combo and one for newer more casual players
      1. Trying to make an inviting event that caters to newer/more casual players is GOOD for our format. It will bring new players to our community, and that is a win for everyone.
    7. Summary. We all want to play GOOD games of Magic. Even though it may be a little outside your comfort zone, having the talk can lead to a better overall experience, and even opens up lines of communication after the game, to discuss how it went. The more we all take measures such as having the talk, the better the game gets for everyone involved, it’s a win-win.
  4. Contact Info
    1. You can check us out at brotherswarcast.com
    2. YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/c/BrothersWarPodcast
    3. Facebook –
      1. Group
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      3. Official Page:
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    4. You can email us directly at mail@brotherswarcast.com
    5. On twitter @brotherswarcast
    6. Ryan individually @greenegeek
      1. twitch.tv/greenegeek
    7. Zack individually @z4ck38
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